Medicaid is an ever-evolving terrain, requiring program leaders to adapt, while simultaneously maintaining predictability for agency staff. One way to walk that tightrope is to build authentic relationships, establishing trust internally and externally. Join this conversation with Gretchen Hammer, former Colorado Medicaid director and senior strategic advisor for the National Association of Medicaid Directors, and Mark Larson, former Vermont Medicaid director and senior vice president of leadership and capacity building at the Center for Health Care Strategies, who discuss their approaches to leadership, and how it is both an art and a science. Their conversation is moderated by Ed O’Neil, PhD, MPA, FAAN, a leadership development expert who has worked with leading Medicaid directors across the country over the last decade.

Medicaid Leadership Exchange is a podcast series exploring priority topics for Medicaid leaders developed in partnership with the National Association of Medicaid Directors and the Center for Health Care Strategies through support from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

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Featured in this episode:

	Mark Larson, former Vermont Medicaid director and senior vice president of leadership and capacity building at the Center for Health Care Strategies		Gretchen Hammer, MPH, former Colorado Medicaid director and senior strategic advisor for the National Association of Medicaid Directors
	Ed O’Neil, PhD, MPA, FAAN, a leadership development expert who has worked with leading Medicaid directors across the country over the last decade

Support for this podcast was provided by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. The views expressed here do not necessarily reflect the views of the Foundation.